WLFI article Community continues to search for missing teens, 8. From 75-yards away I could see girls clothing in Deer Creek east of the bridge and knew full well that the girls where found very nearby. Journal and Courier article 1.2 M to Restore Monon High Bridge, 10. You should join the group if you can afford it. I just wanted to say that I really appreciate you inviting me to the group. Two different composite sketches and a grainy image of the murder suspect recovered from Libby German's cellphone. The Indiana State Police superintendent explains the reason for the different sketches. ine and Kevin said they were touched when relayed Carrie's message of thanks, though added: "We don't see ourselves as anything other than two journalists who have participated in the case. A subreddit dedicated to the unresolved mysteries of the world. June 27, 2021 Timothy Holmseth. But a hatchet blow sure would have. I forgot to mention that you said that you may have a motive? "So, it seems like there's a lot more to do now, basically figuring out who this guy is and how he's linked in with everything. I will have to go back and look through my IMs to see to what extent she corroborated the other woman. The Monon High Bridge being rebuilt in 1915. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The sketch released on Monday was drawn by Bryant on Feb. 17, 2017, a few days after the victims' bodies were found. . There were kids there before them, there were kids there during, there were kids there after. - Mike Patty, Timestamp 13:41, Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, 16. Did they both have a phone? No. Well, if it was a she, then it could have been another young woman who was approached by this man and got away because she saw him as suspicious. They reference you on Reddit all the time. I always thought it was Child Protective Services, too! Journalist ine Cain and attorney Kevin Greenlee have been reporting on the 2017 double homicide of Libby German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, for almost two years on their smash-hit podcast The Murder Sheet. If you look at the 2019 press conf, Carter says parked at the CPS/DCF [Dept of Children & Families] building. On Indiana states social services website where they list addresses to Dept of Welfare locations and Child Services locations by county. We assume that is true because there is a rumor to that effect and also the FBI search warrant we have says they are looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, film, etc. At this press conference, the police also released a short video clip of the suspect obtained from Libbys cell phone. He posted them to his flickr and facebook. ", Two different composite sketches and a grainy image of the murder suspect recovered from Libby German's cellphone. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. We dont know how hes acting in relation to all of this stuff. On February 19, 2017 law enforcement labeled the man in the image a prime suspect. Precisely what evidence police yielded to establish enough probable cause to make the arrest remains unclear: all documents related to the matter have been placed under seal for the time being. I have a few, but they probably dont hold a candle to what you came up with. Only took the trail that lead to the bridge. We also agree with Leaker that the girls were lured to the site that day. pm on February [13th] 2017. He said, 'no I did not.' Nor do we have any evidence that the stepson was at the crime scene that day or participated in the crime in any way. Anotherhaunting photowas posted by his wife onFacebookwhich shows the Indiana man smiling excitedly in front of what appears to be one of the two police composite sketches of the murder suspect. I read your other post and Ive come to the conclusion that someone else set up the crime scene. "A new sketch of the suspect was released as well as a new version of the audio recording, in which a slight inflection in the mans voice can be detected as he says the word 'guys,'in addition to the words 'down the hill.' 12 Noe Padilla, Lafayette Journal . Also thankful for the efforts of podcasters and reporters was Libby's mom, Carrie Timmons, who told The U.S. Sun in a statement on Monday night: "I am so very grateful for all of the loving support and kind words from friends, family, and even strangers. The composite sketch was created after state police received new information from witnesses along the trail. Others were used by the Pharos Tribune in their coverage of the homicides. WISH_TV8 writing: Leazenby wouldnt go into specifics about forensic evidence in the case, although he did say investigators had requested that DNA evidence be 'fast-tracked,'. The man thought about his words for a bit before wording them very carefully. In that case you could understand her hesitation in coming forward; being so close to being his victim that day would be enough to scare you into silence. Source: Infamous Indy podcast Episode 2,Timestamp 18:40. Get all the stories you need-to-know from the most powerful name in news delivered first thing every morning to your inbox. This happens a lot in remarriages. DELPHI, Ind. Since the homicides, Indiana Landmarks has taken ownership of the land and after planned restoration has completed it will officially be added to the Delphi Historic Trails. Knowledge of the witness sightings is mainly given by the family of the deceased and through social media rumors. Officials offered few new details at the press conference Monday and did not disclose how the teens were killed or the evidence against Allen. It is probable the "pinging around town" was a miscommunication around cellphone triangulation or cell tower function. Yes, this is third hand We are very excited to report this news. Allow me to explain. And we have two independent reports from search party members who agree that there were dolls at the crime scene. . Based on my understanding through reading the case so far, there were at least 4 witnesses at around the trail that day at around the time of "down the hill" (slightly before or after) 16 years-old girl. In addition to the two search party members reports, we also have a statement from an LE source close to the investigation that dolls were scattered all over the crime scene, and both girls were posed and sexually violated. The angle of approach and side of bridge can be deduced based on the platforms visible and distinctive foliage in the video. Turns out it's a guy whose sexually interested in children, who's had multiple arrests for it right? The bottom half was covered by the white scarf. They just do it for the Hell of it. We believe this person is currently between the age range of 18 and 40 but might appear younger than his true age. On 12/8/22, the defense asked for its financial requests to be sealed so their defense strategy would not be revealed. Indiana State Police Sgt. Then he said, There was at least one doll at the crime scene.. "I think the media is can be a very good partner in cases like this to keep things moving along," where investigations may have otherwise stalled," she added. Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. I have a notebook with a lot of information I thought was important. Witness names, as well as the name of a Delphi detective were kept redacted. They have a toy drive every year for the kids. The person in the sketch released April 22ndis described as having a youthful appearance, but could fall in the age range from his 20s to late 30s. I can give you instructions here if you like. On the other hand, there is a report from the south end of the bridge by a woman who said she saw Young BG there and scared him off her property. As he looked up to see what it was, that is when he saw them, said Libbys grandma, Becky Patty. It's a name that will now be forever tied to one of the darkest chapters in Delphi history: Richard Allen. Maybe that is what took so long. KD.. Here is the link if interested, http://www.wpta21.com/story/35903873/witness-aided-in-sketch-of-suspect-in-indiana-teens-deaths?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_ABC21_WPTA. WLFI-18 wrote an article that day which said: The recording was longer than what has been released. This was no accident. all the while not leaving any DNA behind. Law enforcement has recovered DNA from the crime scene. Horse and buggy pictured standing on the Deer Creek with the Monon High Bridge visible in the background. He was a regular at JC's Bar and Grill, which has since been shuttered, where he liked to play pool, according to the Indy Star. The previously released sketch. Now, as the investigation has matured and past information has been reassessed, it is the belief of investigators with the Multi-Agency Task Force that the person depicted in the sketch released on April 22nd more accurately represents the person wanted for the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. The gag order was to be effective until the 1/13/23 hearing on moving the trial. This includes the shocking revelation that the girls' killer may have staged the murder scene and that Libby had been in communication with alleged serial Snapchat catfish Kegan Kline before she died. Perhaps they know who it is but need him to slip up and someone is knowingly or unknowingly giving him his alibi. Well that's because that's where all the kids were. On Reddit someone said Gray Hughes got a huge tip in about a poi and he said that it had to be him and someone in the Reddit comments said that its only a few days until the person he thinks did it is arrested. In his remarks on Monday, Doug Carter gave special thanks to the media and podcasters specifically for the role they've played in helping to keep Libby and Abby's story alive in the wake of their tragic deaths. Police dont call this man a suspect or person of interest in the murders. He said there were so many dolls that it looked like he had gone to the Goodwill and bought up a bunch of dolls. We do have Crop Protection Services here in town (recently changed name to NutriAg Solutions, and funny enough they were going to move operations over to the cps building when it was vacant and got into a lease with the town but there were to many problems with the building and it didnt pass code, they never moved in and moved into a building over on Prince William rd instead. Just a question. Monon High Bridge as seen from the south side of the Dreek Creek. Haven't heard of rumored nasa pics. Now onto the match. "While sometimes it's been painful, I am grateful for you all.". This is what I was told by my own mother, so take it as you will. "If somebody knows something, they need to tell us. The tip line number is 1-844-459-5786. . Information sent by email is kept confidential and is only shared with investigators. Taking into consideration Indiana State Police's statement that the old and new sketch are "not the same person" it stands to reason that this description no longer applies. Tietosuojakytnnstmme ja evstekytnnstmme voit lukea listietoa siit, miten kytmme tietojasi. If so, then it would be nearly impossible to pinpoint a killers DNA or anything from those toys considering how many children may have touched them. Source: Tippecanoe-ISP February 15, 2017 13:49 file, Source: Tippecanoe-ISP February 15, 2017 13:19 file. Bryant did not draw the sketch that police released in July 2017. A new donor hopes that an addition to the reward fund for the Delphi murders in Indiana will help authorities catch the killer. DELPHI MURDERS: INDIANA MAN REPORTEDLY IN CUSTODY IN CONNECTION WITH 2017 KILLINGS OF 2 GIRLS, Authorities announced Monday the arrest of Richard Allen, center, for the murders of Libby German, left, and her best friend, Abby Williams, in Feb. 2017. CVS worker Richard Matthew Allen, 50, was charged in October after an analysis concluded a 40-caliber round that was found between the bodies of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams had come from a gun he owned, according to a probable cause affidavit made public Tuesday. I am quite happy to ban you here today. Ughhhhhh! At the moment, we have no idea that the boy in the catfish photo is the same young man who was seen at the bridge that day. This is why its so hard to get girls this age pregnant. "The new material included about one second of video of the man walking behind the girls, his hat pulled down low, in the hopes that someone watching might recognize a quirk in his gait or a familiar mannerism, Superintendent Douglas G. Carter of the State Police said." I know we are on 2 different paths. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have determined the main suspects in the case, have a good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like, and have recently figured out the motive. Therefore, after Mrs. X married Mr. X, they must have gone to court and had his name legally changed to Mr. Xs last name. The suspect, who appears to have no prior criminal record, moved to Delphi from Mexico, Indiana in 2006, and purchased the home he still lives in, which isn't far from where the girls' bodies were found. We are concerned that Mr. X may have used his stepsons photo, possibly without his permission, as the Catfish Boy used in the luring of the girls. . Holeman tells us investigators have more audio from Libbys phone, which was found with the girls at the crime scene. Today, a new sketch of the suspect, appearing to be in his mid-twenties to mid-thirties. It could be literally anything. And by the way, you are banned, baby. She said his eyes were dark and evil. It is unclear at the moment whether the Young BG sketch is from this witness or is the Catfish Boy used on Snapchat to lure in the girls, or if the drawing represents both the young man seen at the crime scene and the Catfish Boy lure. DELPHI, Ind. The vehicle (unknown make or model) was parked at an old CPD/DCS building in Delphi. "Thats what I guess was the biggest shock.". Holeman tells us investigators have more audio from. How do I log in? [10]. Allen appeared before Carroll County Circuit Court Judge Benjamin Diener Oct. 28 and entered a not-guilty plea. And this website wishes to honor that. DEVELOPMENT: Delphi Police Chief receives telephone call from man with voice that sounds like suspect. Her grandfather, Mike Patty, said he did not personally know Allen but that he had "probably seen him. Or was he involved with other people in the killing itself or the events leading up to the killing?". On July 17, 2011 the police released a composite sketch of their suspect in the Delphi murders. -- Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to . Suspect allegedly linked to Delphi murders reportedly in custody. An article from WTHR says audio from Libby German's cell phone was played for the victims' families, including a mention of a man they noticed behind them. Stepson X is Mrs. Xs child by a previous marriage and may have been adopted by Mr. X. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. In what is the finest coup for our group of ~230 paid members, a retired homicide detective from Washington DC joined our group as a paid member! The search on Bicycle Road might not mean much. Allen, who has entered . [5], This would have to have been sometime after they were officially reported missing on February 13, 2017 at 5:20 PM. August 26, 2017 Indiana Landmarks Announces Rescue of Monon High Bridge. If there was an eye witness on the trail that day who saw BG, maybe they didn't come forward because the information also places themselves near the crime scene? Abigail Abby Williams, 13-years old, and her best friend Liberty Libby Rose Lynn German, 14-years old, went hiking near the Monon High Bridge, a part of the historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana on Monday, February 13, 2017. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Do you have their name? when Libby posted a picture on Snapchat. Delphi Bridge murder victims Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were found to have lost a large amount of blood when discovered dead close to an Indiana hiking trail in February 2017. And buggy pictured standing on the Deer Creek with the girls at the CPS/DCF [ Dept of Children & ]. 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