South Bend, IN Many people think the Dimond bros are fanatics (God knows what they would think of St. John the Baptist, Jesus Christ or even St. Paul or St. Catherine of Sienna etc.) That man left MUCH to be desired..even my 18 year old son (at the time) was appalled by the mans evasiveness over extremely serious matters of the Faith. There can be room for disagreement but not when its Our Lord Himself speaking. Saguto, FSSP in the recording. This is sophomoric at best. Barbara, Thank you for addressing me, dear my2cents. This takes a toll on an aging trad & many times that is apparent. Yes, I feel certain that this unfortunate behavior comes from both sides of the aisle (so to speak). A distinction must be made when speaking about the FSSP. Edmund Campion dressed up as a jeweler to avoid arrest. This is at the 4 minute mark in the video. Los Angeles, CA I remember every word and it is my expectation that Father Wolfe will find someone else to host all the sermons he has been preaching but have not been posted publicly since the sad split with Audio Sancto. I dont have close familiarity with any of the people concerned. Finding little support, the faith infused at Baptism is stifled and choked by the thorns of the world, and it becomes easy to drift away. Shame on the FSSP! Detraction is a sin where one reveals the true and secret fault of another without a good reason. Many cant wait to give the high-five, and say Amen. Terry, for his part, quickly took on what my friend called his own jihad against the SSPX shortly thereafter. His work is exclusive in design, liturgically correct and unequaled in beauty. Wolfe. Father Wolfe has been transferred. Indeed, contrary to what some may hear about us, we sedevacantists in reality live amidst other Catholics in peace & gracious commaraderie. The SSPX doesnt tell everyone they meet to avoid the FSSP. Ive seen this story play out more than once before. This gossip fest is now less scintillating than a junior high school girl spat in the Bronx after a game of Double Dutch. Will the FSSP issue a public statement rebuking Voris and CMTV? Don't forget to buy yourself a copy here! The evidence is all around us. Such initiatives and efforts need not be tiresome, but the sacrifice that goes into being thoughtful and present has a cost, be it in personal time or convenience. Sad. I didnt see you mention (granted -perhaps I missed it?) Subjectively, the pope will recognize their jurisdiction at that point. The Bishop did not stop Nicholson. Let Voris live in his blissful world. Springdale, AR Dear piokolby, It is also with the Bishops who do the ordinations for the FSSP. Join Fr. There is a way to point out the faults of others. I worship in an SSPX Parish and I know full well why Im there. Hi, my2cents, Vennari & I agree on (almost) nothing, obviouslybut I see that hes not gotten involved in this most recent Voris-shtick. Take a trip over to Novus Ordo Watch to learn about the actual truth of things, not watered down, but assuming those with a genuine sense of the faith will be given the grace to handle it. Catholics are STILL watching and waiting. Perhaps bc of those such as yourself who have been poorly & even cruelly treated by a sedevacantist somewhere along the line, some proceed to make vast generalizations. This detraction and extreme lack of charity to say nothing about factual errors has got to be challenged. Furthermore, Ive been informed that Fr. Eric Flood, FSSP, who served in that position for the last . Whether an FSSP supporter is willing to admit it or not, he implicitly accepts the orthodoxy, legitimacy and/or intrinsic goodness of the Novus Ordo, ecumenism, religious liberty, communion in the hand, liturgical dance, server-ettes, All in mortal sin? That reality is irrelevant to the objective errors of the FSSP which are public. FSSP NA on YouTube To be a contributing part of this effort requires that our Lord possesses a key place in our hearts. Mater Dei Catholic Parish 2030 East State Highway 356 Irving, TX 75060 Phone: (972) 438-7600 Email: - info@materdeiparish.com Gruner were very sensational to say the least. Can we just let Michael Voris get on with his shtick? Lastly, my contact confirmed that indeed something in 2012 caused Fr. Montreal, QC Rev. You have entered an incorrect email address! The accusation that I luv those who want to destroy the Church is an obfuscation. Denver, CO your above comments are quite smug and patronizing. On behalf of all of the members of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter, the Superior General and his Council would like to express their great thanks to Fr. Calumny is a sin where one tells a lie with the intention of harming the reputation of another. Do you have any insight on this? Gerard Saguto FSSP has been named priest administrator. If he so desired, in this year of mercy, to also grant them jurisdiction, TMAHICH could do so. Nothing more and probably less. 5th group SSPX RESISTENCE 2012/2013 these are mostly priests that belong to the SSPX. Anyway, IMHO, knowing this & taking it into account one can still certainly enjoy this fabulous film. Chesapeake, VA Following the dedication, North American Superior Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP, celebrated the first church's Mass, and Archbishop Gomez preached the first sermon, focusing on the God's call for the parish to "redeem that little part of the world we live in." If you are going to give official platforms to statements rejecting the validity of Vatican II and the Pauline Missal without any public correction or disavowal, you have to be prepared to take the ecclesiastical consequences, whether theyre just or not. The best way is to always talk about principles not personalities. The time and place has to be taken into consideration as well. God. in the Mass prayers of Advent. Most of the time unfortunately it falls into a type of group. FSSP Missions arochial Vicar and Assistant Pastor; a man who Mr. Carroll clearly idolized. Fr. No wonder then, that at the beginning of the liturgical year the Church employs the imperative Excita Stir up! These Catholics focus heavily & almost continually on Bergoglio-who is not the problem. Liturgical Guides to the Seasons Father Joseph DeGuzman, FSSP, from priestly ministry outside the archdiocese to chaplain of the Latin Mass Community of St. http://archives.sspx.org/archbishop_lefebvre/1974_declaration_of_archbishop_lefebvre.htm, A really good film about todays saint St Joseph of Cupertino well worth a watch Pastor of Queen of the Holy Rosary in Vienna. Having said that, it is a bit disappointing having come to the knowledge that full disclosure on this site has given, to know that Fr. Voris has done much good and I used to enjoy him but now I actively avoid him. Don't forget to buy yourself a copy here! I DARE him to try and dispute me. Servant of Our Lady, Berg, Superior General of the FSSP, to be the new District Superior of North America, effective July 13, 2015. Father Wolfe FSSP is the Priest the sermon is linked at the end of this blog: I do not have a right to say anymore. Sarasota, FL 09:00am Holy Mass - Extraordinary Form*. Ive done that in this space many times, speaking of how I once naively believed one thing about the Council, the Mass and even the SSPX, only to have my eyes opened to the truth. We can point out very effectively what is happening without name-calling, and certainly without shouting from the rooftops that this priest, this bishop, this society or association is in mortal sin mostly because we dont like what they have done in particular circumstances. Springdale, AR Houston, TX Objectively, absolutely nothing will change whatsoever, which brings me back to Fr. I think it sometimes gives them scruples. Especially in light of the context in which hes stepping up his attack with the Pope extending a remarkable olive branch to Econe and disastrous developments in annulment law and the ominous maneuverings underway for the Synod Against the Family.. As one who was there for this sermon (and many more), and class, I firmly state that he has NEVER attacked the SSPX. FUNERAL HOMES. Lincoln, NE He pretends he never believed anything other than what he spews today. We have been baptized into Christs death, the greatest act of love ever displayed and graciously made available to all. FSSP Missions I know one FSSP priest ONE that has publicly said the SSPX is not in schism. It must be pointed out that validity is not the central issue. (1 Cor:23). Quincy, IL This is part of a much longer and laborious dissertation on obedience that has all the markings of an Epistle from Terry Carroll to Ferndale. This is the SSPX argument with respect to supplied jurisdiction. ***That said, this includes those who wish to be Catholic. Thank you for your kind response which I believe to be as sincere as my question. ***All Catholics are called to charity toward neighbor. As this unfolds, we lose sight of the individual trees that make up the forest. It was simply too painful for many lay people to take. The heartfelt acknowledgment of potential loss is a sure-fire way of checking contempt and correcting things. I would submit that a reasonably well-formed Catholic of average intelligence can indeed arrive at a high degree of certainty that the dictates of the post-conciliar popes with respect to the SSPX (as it concerns issues surrounding Vatican II and the new Mass) are not manifestations of the will of the Father. Dear marian, Hopefully, if they no longer agree with the direction of the SSPX they havent remained to poison the well as it were. Lexington, KY Priest Training Workshops North American Headquarters, South Abington Twp, PA. The upcoming Synod will be a real evil. marian I was there in the pew EVERY time. You said it much better than I. I was immediately attacked when I posted a response. Inaccurately classified and Inaccuratley defined sorry to the average reader i got it wrong in my comment above thanks de maria for correcting me. And then theres Archbishop Lefebvre, who was more than willing to work within diocesan and canonical frameworks when he erected the SSPX, and asked for nothing more than that when he met with Paul VI. http://www.catholicplanet.com/apparitions/false158.htm Very dear and close friends, who fought side by side with me and my family to defend the Catholic faith, have literally turned their backs on us and pretend they never even knew us. Join Fr. Dayton, OH He deleted from his website any and all references to his former positions; as well as the segments that include me; a 13 part Vatican II series among them. Older Entries Gemma Bradac is an All Saints parishioner located in Hudson, WI, willing to travel up to 30 minutes for a family. Voris- shmoriswho cares? for your information, Im no spring chicken myself. So let me go on record here by saying that I will gladly sit with Michael Voris on a live program to discuss specific reasons why no Catholic should ever be forced to sign off on Vatican II as an integral part of tradition.. Confraternity of St. Peter The majority do beleive there were true popes since 1958. Their website didnt say where he was going. Sedevacantist bishops & priests interract with other Catholics, be they SSPX, those who are in diocesan life, etc. Since becoming a sedevacantist, I have broken contact w/many of my family who consider themselves to be traditional catholics even as they stopped believing in confession when they were in college, attended mass whenever they feel like it, but always go to communion, are sterilized, use birth control, are divorced and remarried, are pro-abortion, are pro-homosexual marriage, dont believe anyone is going to hell, believe everyone is saved w/out being baptized or Catholic, are married to unbaptized persons, never go to mass, raise their children w/these values, never prayed the rosary with their children who are now 35 etc. I do believe that theres a thread of influence and someone as familiar with these personalities as Louie would do well to explore it. I can see where its slightly off, but no more. I wish I could make your comment flash in bright colors. While a routine and discipline are important (assuming these has been achieved in some measure), mindless routine and lack of discipline prey upon the vitality we, deep down, sense the Faith should inspire. Falling away from the Church is falling away from love of a Person, a veritable running away from the home Christ built. If interested, you can contact her at 612-450-0273 or gemmarose974@gmail.com. The rules and commands originated with a person. it comes from the intimate sense of spiritual realities which they experience. We would like to express our deepest gratitude to Fr. At the top of the page under Photo Albums: Relics and Vist, November 2015 Visit and Vespers Oct. 26 - Nov. 1, 2015 Servant of our Lady this man was annouced dead by doctors ,was dead for 3 days http://youtu.be/jeTcee4YUQg *** Here, let it not be said that the interior of anyone is being judged. Allentown, PA Vancouver, BC Wigratzbad Seminary Catholics are watching and waiting. Our Holy Faith often falls victim to being taken for granted. So, to your point upon which we disagree, issues matter not-only the Faith matters. I totally agree with you about CMTV. Gerard Saguto was our first pastor. The thought of home is something that is written into the heart of every human being; while often times it brings to mind a physical house or location, it goes deeper. Dear de Maria, For this reason Catholics must be wary of them. And we must distinguish between the two. What I am not getting into is the subjective faith and morals of the Priests of the FSSP and the laymen who attend their parishes. For any layman to take up this duty is a very serious matter. A cardinal such as Cardinal Burke should speak the truth no matter what the modernist destroyers want. It ended up punishing students and staff for what were, allegedly, the failings of the administration. Why did the SSPX priest so advise certain persons? Oklahoma City, OK It does not matter whether folks think that those Dimond Bros. are fanatics or anything else they may think. Cardinal Burke has been very clear: If Pope Francis puts in place a program allowing the divorced and remarried to receive Holy Communion apart from a true remedy (e.g., an annulment) he will not follow; rather, he said he will maintain the true faith. The attacks from Michael Voris & CMTV against Catholics in the SSPX would not be possible were it not for the FSSP and the Bishops who ordain Priests for the FSSP. Prior to working at CNA, she was the managing web editor of Townhall.com; she has a BA in. That Heresy being Modernism itself. The bottom line, in my opinion, is he is merely a distraction from the real issues facing the Catholic world and the world in general. but they have an interesting video which I have linked to several times (not sure anyone has watched it), but they make a point re: +Wmson thinking that Ratzinger is a good person. Are they abandoning it if they fail to adopt the same posture as the SSPX? You are supporting evil. Berg celebrated a Low Mass at 6:30 a.m. that Saturday morning in the SEAS Chapel. And yes, most especially under the duress we all endure. Until then, Ill continue to uphold the duty of engaging his folly here such as Im able. Indeed we are often victims of true prejudice-marginalized as lunatics, bazaare, on the fringe or fringe groups, etc. For anyone who wishes to gain knowledge on the position, the information is out there. The founding document of the FSSP contains lies and heresy. A group like CMRI *does* accept those consequences, quite readily; they are not bothering to depend on any bishops but their own for their apostolates. Im surprised to see terminology used here. I applaud that. This is the price for full communion, but the truth remains that all three of these things (the Novus Ordo, the Council and the shenanigans of the popes) represent a grave danger to souls. If sedevacantist friends or family have done that to you, or anyone, its a shame. Confraternity of St. Peter Ive recently come across many of his sermons online and found them to be quite useful. Over the course of the last three days, Michael Voris has put his unholy obsession with the SSPX on display via some 30 minutes of video (with the promise of more to come) featuring over four thousand words a portion of which was allegedly plagiarized (but more on that in a moment. Wolfe FSSP is true and public. Their bad fruit is well know. I dont know what it means to be disobedient to the Pope even when doing so would help to save souls. What would such an occasion look like for me as a layman? But as a sedevacantist myself, that excuse does not fly. Thats Mr. V.s job. Problem sorted. We are all fighting for the faith in one way or another. Youngstown, OH. However, there are a couple of ways to regain perspective and renew vigor. Peace be to you. (2) Re: courage or lack thereof of FSSP priests, funniest thing I ever saw was on the Remnant pic of priest all decked out in battle fatigues including bush hat w/the headline Will You (i.e. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Your charge of detraction and extreme lack of charity are baseless and are based on your feelings not on objective reality. They are not coming out with press releases, video responses and challenges, threats to sue, etc. Ive never described myself as an expert on Vatican Council II, but Michael Voris has described me as such, on air, and even ribbed me in a good natured way saying We dont do false humility here when I resisted the idea. Will you also look at the links I posted above? Dear Adam 95, The manner in which certain of the staff at ChurchMilitant.com, the FM College Administration and local FSSP clergy conducted themselves during the disgracing of the school suggests to me that the whole affair informed, hardened or turned the sympathies now on display at CM.com. Dallas, TX Listening to audio sancto raised much concern for me a long, long ago. Who do you say that I am? "I think today a lot of those devotions are missed," Father Stinson said. Priestly Fraternity of St, Peter (FSSP) poses a whole slew of ecclesiological, doctrinal and moral problems. I think Novus Ordo Traditionalists, in my opinion are generally of goodwill, but actually end up causing scandal through false obedience. financially, the college was always on life support. 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