Do you think his behavior has anything to do with Libby and Abby? No one knows what was in Mr. Xs truck at the time it was towed, and theres no evidence that it was searched that day by LE. Man. Neither Mr. X nor anyone else touched the bodies. However, I am very confused about the attached story--I am wondering if this is just the sharing of pictures of the woods and the bridge area? Obviously we need to dig deeper into this man you are referring to. Pictures of clothing in the river. Leaker said that the entire press conference was a gigantic ruse meant to trip up Mr. X, who, as noted, was in the room. WebDown The Hill: The Delphi Murders HLN True Crime 3.7 10.4K Ratings; Abby and Libby - 2 young girls murdered. The pair of eighth-graders spent the afternoon posting photos Ive speculated that too. Worse, he positioned a log in between poor Libbys legs, making it appear that she was being penetrated with a log! The FBI for some odd reason felt that the girls had been left alive for a week after they were abducted. Were better than that. Also, 75% of child molesters are not pedophiles. Says a man broke in, raped her, and took Gannon. God, Id love to know what Rons take is on all this, not that hes the most reliable guy either from what I understand. It is said that I made up this story. I always thought that maybe he REALLY did lose his keys,and thats what LE has, that belongs to the killer!!! This behavior is associated with other forms of abuse such as psychological, physical, and verbal abuse. Im from the UK and its difficult to express just much of a bunch of utter cunts The Sun are. It is also said that Libbys phone, previously dead, started pinging again right around this time. BG was on top of her very quickly and hit her over the head with the butt end of the gun. Im glad you mentioned the struggle. See in the comments below though where a commenter casts doubt on the notion of any .40 gun being a collectors edition. For some time after 6:30 PM, Mr. X was presumably searching Ron Logans land. Leave this man alone if you know who he is. In quite a few countries, 15 year old girls are legal, so hebephiles may stay out of trouble there. We dont fake images. If I were a mother who lost a child I would not find this comforting, I would find this offensive. I dont know what that means. This year does feel different.". Let's just say that in this country an astounding amount of mothers allow their kids to be abused by turning a blind eye or participating with the abuser. Problem is Abbys mother didnt know all sorts of things. Hmm. A gun was absolutely used though. Trashing Leaker, Part 2. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I wasnt there, so obviously I cant say for sure but I would definitely like to know more about the source of info that he was claiming he lost his keys. If he was parked at the cemetery why did he walk back threw the trails with the chance of someone seeing him..doesnt make any sense to me. He told us that Mr. X had a roommate in 2011-2012. One of my graphic artist is a woman. But it is dangerous behavior for men to engage in, as you might get caught and go to jail or prison in the midst of an insane moral panic about this subject. Instead I believe he either prepared the crime scene in advance with all this weird stuff scattered about or he came back after the murders and created his little Fantasyland murder scene. So now we have variations of this rumor verified at least eight times. Teleiophile: Maximally attracted to mature females 16+. Terrible, huh? I doubt if he did it, but maybe I will take those articles down if theyre making the FBI mad. On February 14, 2017, Libby and Abby's bodies were found in Delphi, Indiana, next to a closed down railroad. Press J to jump to the feed. New information about Allen is coming to light following the bombshell news that he had reportedly been taken into custody in connection to the crime on Friday. Pretty much nobody. The first sketch looks like Mr. X. that BG used in this crime. I have graphic artists who do that for me. I work with a lot of females. The hebephiles would scream, No grandmas! every time someone posted a 16 year old girl. Almost all of these guys have red flags like this early ion life. But Kelsi had lent Libby her sweater that day. It looks like a poor attempt to bring light to child abuse. The older daughter looks remarkably like Libby German, and the younger daughter looks remarkably like Abby Williams in that photo. Patty still has hopes that the killer will be found. His sources agreed that Mr. X was someone that LE looked at very hard at least at one point if possibly not at the moment. Shes a great person and I bet you are too. I presume he did this after they were dead, so at least they didnt have to suffer this indignity. Poor girl! This is why Detective Carter was so livid. Assuming that Mr. X is the prime suspect, they already have his DNA. Its possible that KK and Allen were the people trying to market this murder tape. We were also taught to source and label our sources things properly, and we had to take a semester in the libel law which was modeled on a law school course. His wife is none the worse for lack of knowledge because he never called her and told her he lost his keys. First of all, as noted above, Leaker seems vindicated in part about Mr. X being the prime suspect in the case. Sadly, I may have reported that earlier. This information comes from a retired LE officer in Illinois. But it would be easy enough to connect the keys to Mr. Xs truck if that were the case. Photos are morbid especially the one with the cigarette butts. Many killers with a normal age orientation will kill teenage girls since they look like women. eventAction: 'click_ads' I dunno about the whole mask thing.. if I saw someone walking around outside in the wood wearing a mask with little/no one else around Id instantly think he was sus. Im sure that if more information about this case comes out, more of the things weve been saying here for years are going to be shown to be true. Presumably we should look in the background of Mr. X to see evidence of a strong attraction to girls under 16, possibly combined with a low attraction to adult females. The one murder that Ted Bundy would never confess to was an 8 year old girl he is thought to have killed when he was only 14 years old. I know these guys so well that sometimes I wonder if we are all the same person! On Reddit, people are saying that Leigh Kerr has been proven to be a fake and a liar. I know from case document(s) I obtained that LE is looking for photos, videos, videocameras, cameras, film, etc. Richard Allen was pg.acq.push(function() { ga('ads.send', { I wonder what his supporters think of this. Now that they have an arrest, the Patty family says the hard part begins. These men are maximally attracted to pubescent girls and have little to no attraction to mature females. He was searching for the girls after 6:30 PM right where they happened to be, and he happened to lose his keys while searching for them. They searched shacks in the area after the crime. This guy is absolutely brazen as all Hell, and Im giving him another year or two before his confidence is restored and he does it again. Profiler John Kelly, who believes that Leaker should be at least given the benefit of the doubt until proven false, thanked Harvey Carroll, another good (albeit narcissistic) Delphi Murders podcaster, for his work on the BG photo in which Carroll found that BG is apparently wearing a Go-Pro camera. LE is pretty sure they know who did it, but they dont have enough on him to make a case. },false) Instead I want to know precisely what it is about this couple that Ms. Y finds so strange. ga('ads.send', { One rumor is either that one or more of the girls was impaled with a branch. The site was shut down by WordPress, but it was because I violated their Terms of Service in a post I made about feminists. Or shall I call you Filthy? Is it maybe due to available parking? He very closely resembles BG when his face is put side by side by BGs. She comes and gives him a ride to the tow yard where they get the car out. Poor Abby saw this horror in front of her face. If he is really as clever as some think (Im still undecided on that), I realize there are many ways around this. "I know there are photos making the rounds," someone wrote. There is another accusation on Reddit that I manipulated a photo of BG to add in some cigarette smoke. They ask him to move his car, he says he cant because he lost his keys. The first source is from a female member of the search party who saw the crime scene and discussed it with me. Mr. X is a big fan of Harley Davidson motorcycles and an extremely avid deer hunter. I say was because shockingly, Mr. Z is now dead. However, ~23% of men react maximally to girls age 12-15 at a level equal to or higher than their reaction to mature females. However, at the time, formerFBIagent Paul Keenan said there was "no coincidence" between the search and the murders. And if you ever write anything sensitive that we want taken down, we will contact you, ok? Phone conversation between me and and ISP detective, Spring 2017. Perhaps he had seen her regularly and begun to have sexual and homicidal fantasies of her. WebDelphi, Indiana: Eerie photos show teens death march Down the hill | news.com.au Australias leading news site Eerie photos capture teens death march Down the hill Good job Paul! The date of Allen's bail hearing, where future trial dates will also be discussed, is set for February 17. Also one of my graphics people labeled what he thinks is a large branch between this poor girls legs. These same document(s) in my possession say that LE is looking for photos, videos, videocameras, cameras, and film in relation to this case. Women are lousy at logic as any man whos had a girlfriend or wife knows, but men blow at intuition, so it all evens out in the end. So you can see we had active duty LE in our group working with us. The largest photo looks like an older nude female child under a sheer sheet. The post goes on to claim the judge "will not be happy" if they find out someone related to the case released the photos. LE detained him for a while. But really, if these crime scene rumors are true, just about anything, including the most insane notions, may be correct about this craziest of crimes. Leaker stirred up a huge storm and a large consensus is that hes a liar and a fraud. On Tuesday, a true-crime podcast released documents that shed new light on the unsolved crime, WRTV reported. One of the revelations in those document(s) was that BG fired a gun during this crime. I personally have thought the official timeline was too tight from the beginning. Richard Allen, 50, is charged with two counts of murder in the 2017 deaths of 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German in Delphi, Indiana. I guess I just assumed that he corralled the girls there forcibly where things were already for the most part set up? Considering that the killer catfished Libby only via Snapchat for four months and specifically targeted her for the murder, it is interesting because he knew her grandparents well so presumably he was quite familiar with Libby. Neither the sheriff nor the prosecutor returned The U.S. Sun's calls and messages for comment on Friday. The white thing around his neck is generally thought to be simply a white scarf. The crime was too brazen and skillfully carried out to be a first shot. She just applied some lighting filters. According to Matt Sullivan, people in his wanted to hang me on the spot for this comment. Thats intuition, the Gestalt, I know it when I see it. A Reddit poster said he asked around to a number of Delphi insider types, and they told him that indeed LE had looked at Mr. X very hard as a suspect, if possibly not at the moment. "The people who worked with him had no clue and were just as surprised as everyone else," the source said. There is a man named Jordan McCoy on Facebook pretending to be Leigh Kerr. Over time that shifts into case management but not initially beyond case preservation, collection, and testing including witnesses and other forms of documentation like photographs, mapping, any searches, etc. The same questions posed above apply here too. Pedophilia: Probably the most grotesquely abused word of the 21st Century. Also if Mr X were in fact our guy, might this be the reason for the mixup regarding the lost key situation? Nevertheless, Madelines killer is strongly pedophilic, as a large quantity of child porn was found among his possessions. The only time Ive ever seen it used was to charge someone in the recent Russiagate (a fake scandal about a fake event something that never happened in the first place) prosecutions. Im still not understanding why he did this? Nobody really knows this. I've just seen a couple pics of a shoe and some clothing in/near a creek that is purported to be Deer Creek near the crime scene. His wife has indeed been traced back to a local courthouse worker. Ms. Y described the couple as very, very strange. This tells me absolutely nothing about any human being. The pastor of a small Pentecostal church from Lafayette, Joe Wampler, is Leigh Kerr. She wasnt the sort of person to make things up more like the opposite. Another crazy rumor, that of a bleach bottle left at the scene, was also validated by the woman. I do have an unverified report that they have nine markers of a DNA profile via skin cells from an unknown male recovered from one of the girls. The 8 and 10 year old girls fall into the pedophile category, and the 13 and 14 year old victims do fall into the hebephile category. WebTheres a YouTube video of a guy who I guess may cover the case (never heard of him before). Theres a YouTube video of a guy who I guess may cover the case (never heard of him before). Here is what I believe. By 6:30 it was dark and it would have been hard to see the girls who were in a hidden ravine that was very hard to see. Long, runs to 59 pages. In order to discuss this, unfortunately I am going to have to print those photos again. In court on November 2022, McLeland stated, "We have good reason to believe that Allen was not alone. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. For the hundredth time, Im a professional journalist, and I dont make up facts about this crime case. Later he needed months of psychotherapy due to the trauma he experienced by discovering the bodies. Some teleiophilic killers go as low as 12 as Bundy did, but that is because 12 year old girls are barely starting to look like women, especially with the abnormally long legs. LGs body in blue.. And theyre all here to look at his victims and theyre so stupid they cant figure out he did it, so hes basically taunting them and being brazen by staying right there the whole time. He writes in his post that the largest of the photos was staged in his studio. I'm just not sure where this story came from and I, personally, have not seen such "outrage" at all on Reddit , Websleuths, Message boards etc. All these guys have a background. How Abby and Libby were killed has yet to be revealed by police. I just find no logical reason why Mr. X would stick around the area that long and keep his truck parked there that long with cops crawling all over. Mr. Xs car got blocked in by police vehicles who arrived at the crime scene. Theres no evidence that LE has ever served a search warrant on Mr. X, though they may have. The transition Kelsi described in her post for this year came after the 50-year-old suspect Richard Allen was arrested in October 2022, nearing the end of a long cold case for investigators. Did he have family dysfunction? He was married for up to a decade to a wife before she was able to tear down his mask of sanity. See Harvey Cleckley, The Mask of Sanity, 1947, the ultimate document ever written on psychopathy. A question has been brought up about how would BG transport these various objects to the crime scene, as they could easily been seen on his person in the photo on the bridge. She also said her father never lost his keys. First a brief tutorial on age orientations in men. Furthermore, a white van had been seen cruising the streets of Evansdale for a few weeks before the murders. By the way, the man who did the labeling was a sheriff in a nearby county who joined our group incognito. I worked as a proofreader of an academic journal, an assistant editor of a major magazine, and a freelance writer. That may or may not be the case. It doesnt have to be anything sexual. Why didnt he park at Rons front door if he wanted to knock and ask permission to search his land? at the scene ahead of time without getting caught. What she told me, if validated, is one of the most bizarre and insane double murders of the 21st century. I stopped at age 21 because I didnt want to go to jail. Hence the truck is still here. We know little about his life before 2000. Officials only divulged that the girls' bodies were "posed" and that the suspect, who has yet to be officially identified by cops, undisclosed trophies were taken from each victim. Where was Mr. X between 6:30 PM Monday and 12:30 PM Tuesday? The woman told me that dolls were scattered about at the scene in addition to the one shoved between Abbys legs. How on earth he managed to get that close to the crime scene is beggars belief. I realize this is not a good source, but I do trust and believe her. He verified the rumor, saying he had seen crime scene photos. Thats a career-ender and I take my journalistic ethics very seriously. As if a suspects wife and daughter would not be expected to vouch for him. This shows they had a gun cartridge from the scene and it also shows that a shack may well have played a part in this crime. If all the items left are true and of course he would not have had them all on him on the bridge once again makes me look at the now demolished CPS building where all evidence would now be destroyed but what would have been in a old CPS buildingpossibly unwanted eft behind unloved toys dolls, stuffed animals and even sheets are possible? So accordingly there is 4 entrances to this Monon High Bridge trail the girls started on. Allen has denied any involvement in the girls' deaths and pleaded not guilty. He doesnt seem to be too wacky. He grew up in Illinois but moved to Indiana around 2000 at age 35. The updated content found here of notes and comments is far more interesting than the LE updates since they must abide by the limits of sealed documents. Yes, he was parked at the CPS building (its Crop Protection Service) before the killings and then cemetery after the killings to stage the scene, correct! One individual wrote about how they also believed this year was different, "Sending you all lots of love and hugs. According to the theoretical physicist, he seemed to be saying that this smiley face sheet had been hung from trees. Thx, I dont know a damn thing about guns. Thereby killing all of the DNA. On the other hand, and I think this is a better theory, I think that at least some of these things are signatures particular to this killer. WebThey had both been murdered. Thats a fact. People are making statements that the statements in this article are due to me having inside information. This is accompanied by a lot of snarkery and hostility. Back in January, it was ruled by Judge Frances Gull that the jury will come from Allen County after determining that finding impartial jurors in Carroll County would be too difficult. The girls were riding bicycles when they were accosted by the killer near the trailhead. The document(s) are the property of a man in the community who was investigated as a suspect in this case and relate to LEs investigation of him. Ew. Asked why he was parked there and if he would please move his truck, Mr. X stated that he had lost his car keys and he was going to call his wife to get her to bring a new set. You just join the private group if you can afford it. He had somehow removed them from their bikes and gotten them into his van. The photos were blown up and manipulated with software in a Youtube video by a theoretical physicist who seems credible. The roommate also said that he felt that Mr. X might have committed the Evansdale murders too. This is a result of a huge Sex Panic around the sexuality of teenage girls because we cannot acknowledge that they are fully sexual creatures without falling into a Puritanical moral panic. They were in his pocket the whole time. Mr. X has so far been cooperative with LE. This roommate looked at the BG video. media-tech companies with hubs around the world. Now that makes more sense to me! Prior to that he had been bouncing around small towns in Indiana. That rumor started when a young man from Delphi published crime scene photos in the week after the murders. The bodies of Abby Williams, 13, and her best friend Libby German, 14, were discovered near a river a short distance away from the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, on February 14, 2017. No one knows anything about Leigh Kerrs stories, but one of them, new information that BG had binoculars that he used in his ploy the capture the girls, has been validated. And as it turns out, the fact that he didnt lose his keys after all does not clear Mr. X from suspicion. We cant find much on him from before 2000 but he was in Illinois. This rumor was repeated later when a good source told me that poor Libby was impaled with a branch right below her solar plexus. There are a couple of reddish objects that can be very vaguely seen in the center of those camera flashes. I now feel thats a dead rumor. Thinking of you and yours today, as Im sure so many around the country and world are. As with the hebephilic attraction above, men who have high attraction to both women and little girls presumably suppress or repress their antisocial pedophilic attraction and focus on their prosocial attraction to adult women. This article contains remarks made on the internet by individual people and organizations. It is associated by child molestation, but not all pedophiles molest, and many can go 20-30 years without offending. Hes a lust murderer. I dont have the exact figures, but a match with Mr. X on those nine markers might mean that theres a 1 in 10 chance its him. Thats terrible. WordPress took no action against my website in response to Mr. Alters complaints, assuming he made any to them. Oh boy! Rumor is there was one spent round at the scene. We regard that as unverified with substantial likelihood of being true. Mr. X owns a hunting cap that is a replica of the one worn by BG, but perhaps that is a common hat in the area. Thats illegal in most places, either child molestation in the case of 12 year olds or statutory rape for 13-15 year olds. The Carroll County District Attorney's office and sheriff's office haven't officially announced the arrest or any other details. It's never been revealed how Libby and Abby were killed, though the two girls' bodies were reportedly "posed" and items of clothing had beentaken from them as trophies. His whereabouts during those 18 hours are a mystery. Web46K views 2 weeks ago #abbyandlibby #delphi #truecrime. Be my guest. could be color enhanced ig. He strikes me as someone that would be considered by peers to to straddle the line between quirky and annoying. Now theyre left wondering what to do next. In fact, Mr. X was the leader of a young peoples Christian group. Were also right a lot. Mr. Alter filed no injunction against this blog with WordPress. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotOnload', function(event) { Little girl children? A gag order was also issued in the case, said Gull at the initial hearing. I think its in a landfill. This poster also repeated the favorite that Leaker should be arrested for some fake crime called interfering with an investigation. 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