10mm In September of 2021, Springfield Armory released the XD-M Elite in 10mm, which featured a 3.8 barrel. Im a total convert. What advantage does it give you (compared to not locking the slide every third shot)? Disassembly and cleaning is an easy affair and can be done without pulling the trigger like some of the Austrian pistols on the market. A 10mm 180 hydra shok is doing 1030 out of a 5 barrel. Is It? Did add talon grip tape to the 4.5 and the 5.25. It reminds me of the Glock 29 I bought that couldnt get through a magazine without jamming. When squeezing the trigger, it becomes increasingly easier to fire off follow up shots. With this being my only 10mm firearm currently, I dont necessarily stockpile the corresponding ammo. I bought new a Springfield XDM 10mm. In his free time, he reviews optics on his Scopes Field blog. I have other more accurate pistols and some that have better features. Accuracy is outstanding and its so comfortable in your hand. Hold each, see which feels better, lines up better in your hand. Ordered a Springfield Armory XDm 10mm 4.5" through the IOP and just picked it up out of jail, where it was thoroughly cooled off. The optic has to be manually turned on, but does have a 16-hour auto-off feature. 1 Replies 175 Views February 03 2023 10:38:47 AM MST by Graybeard: Glock 20 questions. Started by Graybeard. I have the Glock-20, love it. But make no mistake, it is svelte in all the right ways too. advice. After the first 2 magazines I noticed this little wire protruding from the loaded chamber indicator. Where I found the 3.8 to be a joy to shoot, and very accurate given the slightly shorter barrel length, the 4.5 was the older brother that never quite lived up to his potential. Using my trusty food scale, I pegged the unloaded weight of the 4.5 at 25.15 oz or a touch over a pound and a half. It's had a lot of problems with soft strikes and some other odd issues. Back then, the starting point was the Norma load, with a 200-grain bullet at a book velocity of 1,200 fps. After about 50 rounds of hornady critical defense (factory ammo) I had an odd round that made my whole hand sting. I never cleaned it during the testing, and while it was downright filthy at the end, it still continued to run. Im not shy about the fact I love 10mm. Due to the way I had the rifle slung, my pistol and my rifle spent all is the next acquisition. The new XD-M Elite 4.5 OSP 10mm combines all the refinements of the Elite series with the impressive power of the 10mm cartridge. Wolff told me the 4.5 spring at 22# is good. Aside from the typical literature and gun lock, youll find some welcomed extras come with your XD-M Elite. Caliber: 10mm. I finally took a kneel, rested the gun on a sandbag and produced the five shot groups above with 115 gr. I was torn between three, I was looking at the CZ 85B The P09 and the XD 5.25, but i am extremely happy with Cz. CZ is where its at, hands down. Right out of the box, it has everything you need, plus a little more. M&Ps are probably next on the list. I recently had the opportunity to put a brand new Springfield XD(m) 5.25" 10mm through its paces. The Dragonflys housing is made from 6061-T6 Hardcoat anodized aluminum and comes with anti-glare lenses and simple This isnt to say that the XD(M) cant handle a wide variety of ammo, though, because it performs with equally well with range ammo like Tula 115 gr, Remington UMC. I managed an average of 1.5-inch groupings at fifteen yards, no problem. I fully recognize that the holster and mag pouches kind of suck compared to what you can go buy on the aftermarket, but I want to give props to Springfield for selling a true kit including the very nice hard sided case which is just fine for usage on the airlines. 638002130469186470, Springfield Armory XD-M Elite 4.5 OSP 10mm, Fiber Optic Front Sight, Tactical U-Dot Rear Sight, Hex Dragonfly Red Dot. In the aftermarket, there are plenty of companies making trigger upgrades, sights, and holsters for the XD(m). Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. In fact, it beats the feel of the Glock grip hands down. Still Love my CZ, both are very competitive with each other. Springfield Armory XD-M Elite 4.5 OSP 10mm: Hands-On Review [2023]. Hold each, see which feels better, lines up better in your hand. Due to the way I had the rifle slung, my pistol and my rifle spent all My experience was that the two were near identical in operational capability. If I was a little bigger, Id carry the P09 all day long, instead of the P07. I have the XDM 3.8 in 9MM and LOVE IT. SA did, however, improve on the trigger assembly when they released the XD(M) Elite; the Elite series features a new flat-faced trigger with overtravel stop theyve named the Match Enhanced Trigger Assembly (META) System. But I did change to special barrel ($150) to handle the heavy bear loads of Buffalo Bore 220gr slug. Id like to get the laser max guide rod laser so it still fits in any holster. This striker-fired pistol is well-balanced and fairly light for its size. The only exception was the P232 above in that my palm extends maybe 1/4 inch below the back of the grip, if that. Take your rucks off, lads. We aren't fussy. It was a quirk developed by bad dry fire practice. The 3.5-MOA red dot Dragonfly is the larger of Springfields two red dot optics and is perfectly proportioned for full-size handguns. I havent shot this gun in wet conditions to see how the grip fares, but I wouldnt think any huge issues would arise. All these amazing features make it one perfect casual outerwear to get compliments from your fashion friends. This new XD (m) is an eye opener. help sites earn revenue by advertising and sending traffic to Take a look at the Trijicon RMR Type 2 or Holosun 509T. Grip comfort is a big deal for me since I have huge hands. Take your rucks off, lads. Ultimately, the rifle was worse for the wear. To sweeten the pot, SA throws in three magazines, a cleaning brush, a loading tool, three exchangeable backstraps, a gun lock, an over-the-waistband paddle holster, and a magazine holster for those two extra mags. Full disclosure, I'm a steel gun guy. Springfield customer service. With an overall length of 8.3 inches and a weight of thirty-two ounces, the XD(M) is a surprisingly light and comfortable pistol. It sounds to me that Springfield Arms shoehorned a magnum power cartridge into a major power frame. Richard Douglas is a firearms expert and educator. The beavertail profile is a nice addition, too. Ordered a Springfield Armory XDm 10mm 4.5" through the IOP and just picked it up out of jail, where it was thoroughly cooled off. The stock rear sight has a very stylish rearward slant that looks great but renders it fairly useless for any of the aforementioned activities. Here is the before pic. Gotta be there brass, I have a 29. The notched all-terrain grip and high-profile beavertail allow for a tight, secure grip. EGW being one of the best. Was going to post a pic but it wont let me attach it to the comment, idk if you can even do that on here, but it was my p09 sitting next to the Para ordinance 1911 that gets outta the safe every once in awhile. When using the rear sights, it feels really good when you reset for another shot. I was obviously very surprised but kept on shooting. I have an XDm 5.25 and its been a great gun. Sights: Fiber Optic Front, Tactical Rack U-Dot Rear. They are hammer fired, awesome trigger, safe as heck with the DA first pull, fit in your hand like a glove and accurate and controllable as any pistol out there if not more. WebXDM Elite 10mm 3.8" FAILURE! Springfield paid close attention to the details of this gun and loaded it up with features. And thanks to the well-positioned mag release, the 10mm loads quickly and efficiently. The XD(M) is already a low-recoil handgun, and with its fast cycle-through you barely even notice a hitch, especially with reduced-power loads. To prove the quality and reliability of the new XD-M 10mm, 10,000 rounds of Federal Premium Hydra-Shok ammunition was fired through the gun with EVERY round documented on video. Its reliable. I sent it to a gunsmith called XD Man in AL, who did great work. This isnt to say that the XD (M) cant handle a wide variety of ammo, though, because it performs with equally well with range ammo like Tula 115 gr, Remington UMC. Im not much of a pistol guy, but I can consistently hit head shots at 30 yards (90) with my 4.5 XDM .40. After a long awaited range session with my new xdm 10mm, the pistol failed in less than 60 rounds. It also does not like the white box. Hold each, see which feels better, lines up better in your hand. I had them add FO sights to my 4.5 XDm, and its by far my favorite gun to shoot. Either is a great choice in 10mm. Where the Springfield Armory XD-M Elite 3.8-inch Compact OSP 10mm Failed This XD-M has good iron sights, but with an optic, theyre useless, even as quick backups. Nice review! Back then, the starting point was the Norma load, with a 200-grain bullet at a book velocity of 1,200 fps. Especially if you already shoot the Glock platform, the familiarity of the sights, grip, and controls will make it a definite contender for you to check out. The one downside to these classics is that I have not yet found personal defense rounds which will feed reliably, so continue to depend upon FMJ and shot placement, just as in the service. Gun Made participates in the Amazon Services LLC A cubicle-dwelling technology sales professional by day, he is an avid starter of projects, purchaser of speciality tools, and aspiring chef outside the office. After the first 2 magazines I noticed this little wire protruding from the loaded chamber indicator. Reason I'm asking is because accuracy was all over the place. To prove the quality and reliability of the new XD-M 10mm, 10,000 rounds of Federal Premium Hydra-Shok ammunition was fired through the gun with EVERY round documented on video. Coming from someone who loves to modify their guns, this one left me not wanting to do much of anything to it. It is a decidedly full sized handgun. It is easily capable of head shots at 10 yards. I just checked the Wolff site and they don't show anything for 10mm. *. Thanks for the review, I have not had a bad experience shooting my regular 5.25" XDM 10mm. I knew something wasnt right. I got my XDm about 5 years ago. Whether you are a novice shooter or a hardened competitor, this gun will hit whatever you aim it at. I have a lot of waistline to hide stuff in/on. 9 MM .45 ACP. Fresh out of the box, they are bright and crisp in daylight and even the waning hours. Jul 17, 2021. #1. The first cylinder full was hard to eject. Accessories * * * * * The magazines are chromed and slide home easily and freely. #7. The Dragonflys housing is made from 6061-T6 Hardcoat anodized aluminum and comes with anti-glare lenses and simple Trust me, if you had touching the stop, your knuckle wouldve been all bloody by now. 9 MM 10 MM .45 ACP. I like your style, Roscoe. I know many departments and agencies are approving the XD platform for personal carry- Springfield hasnt done the aggressive pricing cuts like Glock and SW have done so its only rarely the official issued duty weapon. For the times when you arent actively releasing a magazine, the button is unobtrusive, and nearly impossible to trip accidentally. After about 50 rounds of hornady critical defense (factory ammo) I had an odd round that made my whole hand sting. I think the larger size XD with the stainless (two-tone?) The XD-M Elite 10mm I tested came packaged with Springfields Hex Dragonfly optic. I own an SA but will think twice before buying another one. I cant really fault a gunmaker for my stupid grip, but I can fault them for not shaving down the slide lock a bit more, something I would do had I chosen to add the 4.5 to the fleet. Loaded with features from top to bottom, the XD-S Mod.2 is a slim single stack pistol perfect for concealed carry. I used to have similar issues with support hands and slide locks. Barrel Length: 4.5". Which made me think that it needed to break in a bit. "As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods; They kill us for their sport.". A guy wouldn't think he'd notice an extra 3/4" but it sure seems enough to be annoying to carry. Especially if you like 1911. The only issue I've read or heard about with the 10mm XDMs is the occasional 'ejection' of the factory fiber-optic front sight. I didnt see anything wrong with the pistol and reassembled. The mag release, slide lock, and takedown lever are all easy to operate. You stare at your friends salivating over the GLOCK 43 and ask why theyd want to carry a third(ish) the ammo you do. A 4.5 10mm just makes sense. Looks to be a similar issue, his trigger also locked up. However, I can't stand a grip safety. In a marketdominated by tiny handguns, theres a certain bravado that comes with not only owning, but carrying a pistol that weighs over two pounds loaded, and packs twenty rounds at the ready. A larger, heavier gun makes recoil more manageable, and lets face it: with so many different caliber options for concealed carry in urban environments, the 10mm better fits open carry for wilderness situations. Springfield Armorys customer service representatives can answer your questions/concerns Monday through Friday 8:30 to 4:30 CST via phone at 1-800-680-6866, International: +1-309-944-5631 or email at sales@springfield-armory.com. Yeah, I'm sure it will be fine when I get it back but man, this is extremely disappointing. WebBroken XDM Elite 10mm 3.8" UPDATE: They said it's good to go. However my factory Glock barrel (still have it) cycles fine the Underwood 200gr slug bear load. Advantage Arms .22 Conversion Kit for Springfield XDM 9/ 40. As far as accuracy is concerned, the large frame and 4.5 barrel definitely help with recoil management, which translates over to the accuracy. Compact yet powerful, the pistol packs in 11+1 rounds of the powerful 10mm and features fully ambidextrous controls, the excellent META trigger and much more. Optic cut, suppressor sights, 4.5" slide with a 5.3" threaded barrel. You can read all about it here, but this is the first pistol that has not agreed with my high handed support grip. Fast forward to just a few months ago, May to be exact, Springfield released the 4.5 version. Pachmayr full wrap replacement grips vastly improve the control of both pistols. Now, I don't know about you all but this is the first brand new firearm I've had basically fall apart in my handsand I shoot a lot of S and B. Im of the camp that likes a rear sight with a flat face on the front or even a slight forward cant. This is not a mechanical failure so much as an ergonomic one in my mind. Im not shy about the fact I love 10mm. Get the best gun and ammo DEALS that are out there right now! Mine came with the small backstrap, and it fits my hand nicely. Length: 7.6. The slide stop is just big enough to manipulate easily without getting in the way, while the mag release is textured enough to find quickly. You could point out you arent an evil, devil-handed southpaw like me, but then, if you were a lefty, would you have given it only 2 or 3 stars for accessories because the holster that comes with the gun is RH only? Youll also notice a magwell at the bottom of the grip. However my factory Glock barrel (still have it) cycles fine the Underwood 200gr slug bear load. No work was done to the pistol, outside of a recoil spring change and oil at 2,000 round intervals. The Springfield Armory XD(M) Competition Series of handguns has been getting a lot of attention lately, and for good reason. I have an XDM 10mm OSP. Its a dream to shoot as all that weight and size absorbs what little recoil 9mm puts out. I've been hoping for years to see an M&P 10mm hit the market, so I will definitely be grabbing one of those. If you have achieved operator status, sleep well at night on the pointy end of the spear knowing that you can still get a firm grip on your gun with your hands covered in blood, mud, and grease. For a little concealer I own a .380 in the form of the Sig P232 which holds 7+1 and just about fills my hand. It is much more civilized than the Rock in as much as the recoil is not as sharp and it doesn't launch brass into low earth orbit. However, I can't stand a grip safety. Im a little late to the party here but I have 2 cents to toss in. Ah yes. Caliber: 10mm. The XDM 10mm is out today, in both 4.5 and 5.25-inch slide configurations. They replaced the trigger. Have 1000+ rounds through mine, not a single issue. And thanks to the well-positioned mag release, the 10mm loads quickly and efficiently. With fifteen rounds in the magazine, one in the chamber, and fifteen more on each reload, the XD-M in 10mm is going to be handy when trouble arrives. A fellow let me fire his XD(M) .45 at the range one day. Color: Black. 28,272. 4 Replies 457 Views September 27 2022 12:41:12 PM MDT by Kenk: 1911 10mm mag question. Thats my only complaint. Southpaws shall rejoice that the XD(m) features a magazine release thats ambidextrous with no need to fix anything out of the box. Springfield Armory XD-M 10mm Discontinued Jump to Latest Follow Products in this Thread Discover products that SIG Talk members are discussing products that are mentioned will automatically appear here. Sights: Fiber Optic Front, Tactical Rack U-Dot Rear. In practice, it becomes a non issue as any reasonable grip is enough to disengage the safety and allow you squeeze the trigger. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You could have been dealing with some sort of hand strain before you went and mildly damaged something, if you are already suffering from tendonitis it's not hard to do. The gun is definitively minute of bad guy accurate, and as you can see in the video above, head shots at ten yards at a decent little clip are well within the realm of a mediocre operator. The upside for 1911 extractor problems is that there are a number of companies that make excellent after-market extractors. Not only did I stop having slide lock issues, it also made a big improvement to recoil management. Never admit you had an over pressure load. As a sidenote, my shooting buddy Jacob has had a 4.5 for the last few years that goes ~3000 rounds between cleanings. NO ISSUES. it holds 16 rounds in the mags and thats the .40 S&W round were talking about. If youre an M&P fan, this one needs to be on your list. I agree that the XDM doesnt do much that the basic XD wouldnt, except look a bit cooler and cost more. I wonder if some part of the match trigger can't quite take 10mm recoil. 28,272. 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