While specifying a bullet was found at the scene, nowhere in the document does it suggest that either of the two girls was shot. R128 and R129 This is why the crime won't be solved. If they arrest someone, the clock starts ticking for a speedy trial for the killer(s). Libby fought back. It looks terrifying even without the psycho killer lurking. Crews widened the scope of their search as soon as the sun came up, wandering further from the abandoned railroad tracks and into wooded areas below the bridge and along Deer Creek. He wasn't speaking extemporaneously; he read it from notes. He will kill again, probably in another state. None of the other people of interest turned out to be a suspect. And another year slips by.. His clothes make him appear to be in his 40s. (The son is currently in prison for watching and downloading children being sexually abused -- sorry I can't use the word "porn" with regard to children). Agree R183. The families sponsored a food drive for charity in the girls' names. I don't think enforcers usually kill children. The source also said the pose was sexual. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1926 and died on April 11, 2002. Credit: Tippecanoe County Sheriff's Dept. Seems now its all about standard Jesus-hollering Christian community dudes under suspicion. Never mind. R29 Sorry, I wasn't getting at that part. READ | A look at the property where two missing teen girls were found dead. This whole story gives me chills. Is there partial DNA or a full DNA profile of the suspect? No cause A true cold case provides no leads, no information to follow into. We will update Delphi Lawrence's Height, weight, Body Measurements, Eye Color, Hair Color, Shoe & Dress size soon as possible. John Terhune/Journal & Courier A composite sketch one of just a couple pictures of the Delphi Murders suspect. I shudder to think about how he mutilated them and posed their bodies. Nevertheless, it's a creepy coincidence in a very disturbing case. This whole case has been weirdly handled by police for years. My old and new rabbit holes were on the Beeks, Pat and Angel Br@wn and their little pickup, then Micah H, then pastor JDW. Ever since the drama with "verifying" the guy who goes by Leigh Kerr on the subreddit, he's completely disappeared, right? Or someone prominent? There is a rumor told by locals that one of the girls was pregnant. R144, they documentary indicated that many were investigated and interviewed. Or not. His voice sounds similar. They may have dropped something in that area, so we combed the area, said Sgt. Sometimes a hatchet is mentioned as being the murder weapon. Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered in Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. It's not him. More info on reddit: The killer appears to be an avid outdoorsman. I don't think that the fat guy and his dad are the actual killer(s). In January 2021, the creators of a smartphone app called CrimeDoor provided a unique and eerie look at the fateful day Abby and Libby encountered their killer in Delphi, Indiana. You could also do it yourself at any point in time. She lost a shoe on a private driveway on the side of the creek where the bodies were found. Of course he is. Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenvy has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. There have been texts on Reddit for years now. It took me forever to find that when I was looking for it yesterday r302, which is why I didn't link to the post that showed the photo from 2016 where he already had a tattoo, it would take me an hour to figure out which link in my history it was. Liberty has previously been heralded a "hero" by investigators for her quick-thinking actions, with cops citing the recording to be a key shred of evidence. It just doesnt sound right. Also praying that this monster is removed from society. This idea that they were lured there or they revealed on SM where they would be is very interesting. Look at his left ear in the photo and the left ear of the first sketch. Some believe that neither girl was pregnant). It was emphasized that the police department felt like the perpetrator was present at the briefing. R209 Leigh Kerr was supposed to come back and answer the highest voted questions that he hadnt gotten to last night. This weirdo factory reset his phone the day of the murders. The name means leaker.. Libby and Abby's bodies were found on Valentine's Day. Well, hmm. The car was abandoned near the crime scene. I thought they had brought in a suspect a few months after the killings who seemed like the likely perp? We likely have interviewed you or someone close to you. They are still at the age/mind set of obeying adults without question, even subconsciously. "We've likely interviewed you or someone close to you.". Holy shit! Lawrence went on to star in a series of Andrew Lloyd Webber hits, including Starlight Express and Cats. The Daily Fail has an article posted today that has a suspect being investigated. R462 That was the fat pedo's reset of his phone. They're keeping a lot from press. In the attack he was arrested for, her family says the 9 year old was bleeding out of her eyes from the strangulation? I have always thought that the girls were catfished. Yeah, on Reddit you see a lot of initials with explanation. People age so differently. They also released an audio recording of a man believed to be the suspect instructing the girls to go down the hill.. The special on HLN was very disappointing. It was a popular local spot for photographers and nature-watchers and the girls saw that they werent alone. That said, the writing style to me reads as a man in either law enforcement or law. If only. Links to more Entertainment stories are at the foot of the page. There were no trail cams, at the time of the murders. He lives in the town next to Delphi. She saw the video and confirms a bit. It shows how ratty the bridge was and why the killer would have been apprehensive when walking across the bridge. Why could they be the suspect. "When we decided that, through the information we received, that we were going to release the second sketch I dont believe the individual knew we were going to do that. Forgive me if someone already said this: if the girls knew the killer they would have said his name and it would have been recorded by her phone during the attack. But still killing two teenage girls who decided at the last minute to take an unadvertised hike? She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959) and The Avengers (1961). that sketch looks a LOT like him. I think he planned to but they ran and he killed them in anger. Just my opinion, but I think he has no connection to that town. It could be DNA from one of Chadwell's dogs. On one of the reservoir tanks was a big (I mean huge) sign that said something like "Congratulations New York Police for Catching Son of Sam!" All they have is a few words and a blurry image. The public has been given two sketches, is the thought there is more than one person involved or is the second sketch the suspected killer? The second sketch was of a younger looking guy. So not freakishly short. Or something like that. I am praying they catch this guy in my lifetime. R4777 Anyone who was a Snapchat friend could have seen Libby's feed that showed her photo of Abby on the bridge or other photos that Libby took at the trails. What was the other one? R153 The recording Liberty German made, yeah. Delphi was 76 years old at the time of death. The cops are probably not going to feed her all their information just in case. Carter says a vehicle was parked at the old CPS/DCS Welfare building in Delphi on the east side of County Road 300 North, next to the Hoosier Heartland Highway between noon and 5 p.m. February 14, 2017. I hope that it is solved, and BG is punished. It was almost like it was a family member who did this.. Some of the theories here are REALLY nutty and reaching. That might also explain why they would keep some of the recordings from the public. I am only guessing. If I hadnt let him take her home, she would probably be alive today.. The police mention DNA evidence. Could LE find the ISP of the profile's creator? I believe the current theory is that it's actually Kline's father that is the prime suspect for the murders. It is not him. And some of the ones who still haven't been caught: r291 - the current POI looks very good for it. The FBI hadn't been involved there either. They were on another phone.". One thing I believe is that he targeted only one of the girls. Enough"? There are three key pieces of evidence that have been released by authorities. Evidently the sheriff is going to answer submitted questions. Never help someone take you somewhere ("I'll do anything you want just please don't hurt me") or let them tie you up- even if they have a gun or knife pointed at you. Thinking about what their final moments alive were like is truly upsetting. I went down the Reddit Rabbit hole last night and read that there, but idk if that is accurate. Kids are also social media minded and the bridge and the view made for good photos. R18 I have heard that there is 7 minutes and also 40 minutes. I knew nothing about the case until today, but when I heard the man say Guys, down the hill it seemed like he was signalling other people via some Bluetooth handsfree set. I think this is our guy. There is also no doubt in my mind that he kept a "memento" from the victims to relive the crime over and over again, the way John Wayne Gacy did. Tell you what. I'm sure I read that somewhere. The telephone Tip Line is (844) 459-5786. So, it was really, really important. i don't want to jump on the "this is the guy!" I am assuming the killer was able to force the girls off the path and "down the hill" by either brandishing a gun or pretending he had a gun in his pocket. You've seen too many movies. If it predates the Delphi murders, it's likely someone he "memorialized". I mean if they weren't involved in murder and drug smuggling it shows that they pick and choose their cases. I hope they arrest him, such senseless loss of life. Some armchair detectives have even gone as far as attempting to reconstruct the murders in elaborate YouTube videos. Crossing the bridge was not permitted and signs were posted. He knew what he was going to say before he said it.. This case must have really given hope to psychopaths out there. R7 Please elaborate! The day the girls went missing, there were dozens of people looking for them. Something not a lot of people get is that the man in the video was walking like an old guy because it was a fairly dangerous bridge with rotting wood, so you'd have to carefully step on each plank and make sure it wasn't a rotted one too. They are really pushing this guy for some reason. when it had taken them for-fucking-ever to do jack shit about it and then they bungled and fucked up the search. I think theres one piece. R28 thats horrific. His gait seemed slower and that of an older man. R340, they do not doubt it's him, it's me- i just think it's too soon to say it's definitely him. I guess its because it happened in broad daylight, out in the open. The police did say they had a good idea of who had committed the crime and were waiting for him to slip up as it was just a matter of time. The BG seemed older and walked differently. Im assuming the killer found out she had it and tried to destroy it and it was found in the water? That little girl came as close to death as is possible without dying. Then you've got to go an search for the story. They also say they now believe that the second sketch is a more accurate depiction of the suspect, although the actual suspect may likely be a mix between both sketches. He took and killed both girls, but he only wanted one of them The eyes on the tattoo are telling. Someone dropped them off there too, so whoever did was obviously ok with them walking across a rickety, corroding bridge alone. R24 I would've thought the same but I read a case last year about a woman who was killed by her boyfriend, I can't remember the full details and I wish I had bookmarked the info, the guy was either in the police or had connections to the police. Nope. If you consider the chief suspect is in prison, I can see them wanting to build their case. There is a large meat plant in the area. Such a smart little girl. It is frustrating to me that the real JTR was never revealed because it would be so interesting to know about his childhood and what makes a person so very sick. But now I just dont know what to think. Again, after studying serial killers for decades I believe he was unknown to the girls. According to Kline, he exchanged messages with more than a dozen underage girls and received pictures from them. R288, That's exactly what I said when I read he is from LaFollette. While police continue their search for the Delphi killer, people across the country have been coming up with their own theories about who is responsible. The police sketch that LE recently released (where the guy looks younger) was actually the first police sketch that was drawn. Like I said above, the girls would have been heard screaming if they were killed at 3 pm. The parents did a piss poor job of supervising their kids. Before the murders, Libby had her aunt do a factory reset of her phone (Libby's phone) because it was acting up. According to Leigh Kerr there was a religious aspect to the crime scene and the bodies were staged. Stranger to the two victims. One of the cellphone pictures from the Delphi murders depicts the suspect walking down the railroad bridge toward Abby Williams and Libby German. Some say that the girls were killed inside a barn on RL's property and then later moved and during "dark hours" after LE had stopped searching. I always thought this was lucky-psycho related. If they did they wouldn't be in business long. sounds pretty close to "down the hill, guys" voice. With video, audio etc, I was sure of this and thought the girl who kept her phone going was so smart. Actress. "Following a post-mortem this morning it was established she died of natural On sub-Reddit DelphiIsTheDays Timeline there is a post asserting fellow student Cheyenne said on FB she heard screaming and called 911. Who knows if that is true. Eyewitnesses had seen a man in the area. Too heartbreaking. Investigators need to think outside of what "real drug dealers do" or "real people do" - there is no REALITY to a crime like this. Barely over 5ft tall? Also how did he get her exact image if it was before the murder? R199 Interesting take. In essence, the well has not gone dry.. a hair, a skin sample from nails, just SOMETHING. My theory is that it was catfishing through Snapchat to abuse Libby. We all knew this sick piece of shit would kill again. I also tend to believe stuff released from family members, although I understand people may feel differently. No matter how distant, do you have the man walking on the bridge, videoed by Libby, on any other video? I cant imagine being a parent and not knowing when your child is or what your childs last moments were like. I mean, not knowing the howmeans any awful thing you think of, if that makes sense. Q. A witness came forward and described a car parked in a small lot near one of the trail exits for a few hours on the day of the murder. Although the audio may appear to be a different voice, Indiana State Police were clear when they released it that the extended clip was all the same person. He decapitated one of his victims and posed get body so that it seemed as if she was looking at her body lying on the bed. I had not even thought about the fact the guy could have gained weight! The entire incident was recorded on Libby's phone. This is the fatal flaw. I was thinking one of them was posed as if crucified. The other girl just got caught in the cross hairs. That was one of, if not the most, gruesome murder I have ever read about. 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