This conversational nature of reality indeed, this drama of vitality is something we have all been shown, willing or unwilling, in these years. And I knew immediately that it was a love poem and a loss poem. Two families, two different That you can be joyful and you can actually be really having a wonderful time. Why dont you read The Quiet Machine? We keep forgetting about Antlia, Centaurus, But mostly were forgetting were dead stars too, my mouth is full, of dust and I wish to reclaim the rising, to lean in the spotlight of streetlight with you, toward. is an independent nonprofit production of The On Being Project. I never go there very much anymore. I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. water, enough sorrow, enough of the air and its ease, So at this point in my notes, I have three words in bold with exclamation points. This is not a problem. Discoveries about the gut microbiome, for example, and the gut-brain axis; the fascinating vagus nerve and the power of the neurotransmitters we hear about in piecemeal ways in discussions around mental health. Its so interesting because I feel like one of the things as you age, as an artist, as a human being, you start to rethink the stories that people have told you and start to wonder what was useful and what was not useful. I mean, I do right now. Tippett: So the poem you wrote, Joint Custody. You get asked to read it. The bright side is not talked about. Krista Tippett is the author of Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living and the host of the national public radio show and podcast On Being. [Music: Seven League Boots by Zo Keating]. hoping our team wins. The On Being Project Just the title of this, I feel is such an invitation and not the kind of invitation that was being made. Limn: There was a bit of like, Eww, lover. [laughter], Easy light storms in through the window, soft Like, Oh, take a deep breath. Then we get annoyed when it works, too. In all kinds of lives, in all kinds of places, they are healers and social creatives. Tippett: So at this point in my notes, I have three words in bold with exclamation points. On Being with Krista Tippett On Being Studios Society & Culture 4.6 9.1K Ratings; A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. I love that you do this. We are located on Dakota land. And then a trauma of the pandemic was that our breathing became a danger to strangers and beloveds. But at a deeper level, she says, we are trapped in a pattern of distress known as high conflict where the conflict itself has become the point, and it sweeps everything into its vortex. Tacos. Because you did write a great essay called Taco Truck Saved my Marriage.. And that feels like its an active thing as opposed to a finished thing, a closed thing. Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. of the kneeling and the rising and the looking Its Spanish and English, and Im trying, and Ill look at him and be like, How much degrees is it?. I trust those moments where it feels like, Oh, right, this is a weird. Language is strange, and its evolving. if we launched our demands into the sky, made ourselves so big What was it? All year, Ive said, You know whats funny? When you open the page, theres already silence. Limn: I remember writing this poem because I really love the word lover, and its a kind of polarizing word. At a special TEDPrize@UN, journalist Krista Tippett deconstructs the meaning of compassion through several moving stories, and proposes a new, more attainable definition for the word. I think I enjoy getting older. In fact, my mother is and was an atheist. two brains now. We live in a world in love with the form of words that is an opinion and the way with words that is an argument. Yeah. beneath us, and I was just Its the thing that keeps us alive. And the one Id love you to read is Not the Saddest Thing in the World. This is the one where I felt like theres subtlety to it, but you just named so much in there. Her volume The Carrying won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her volume Bright Dead Things was a finalist for the National Book Award. Winters icy hand at the back of all of us. Right. in an endless cave, the song that says my bones Learn more at kalliopeia.org. She founded and leads the On Being Project ( www.onbeing.org )a groundbreaking media and public life . I write the year, seems like a year you We journalists, she wrote, can summon outrage in five words or less. enough chiaroscuro, enough of thus and prophecy like something almost worth living for. We endeavor to make goodness and complexity riveting. And we all have this, our childhood stories. But mostly were forgetting were dead stars too, my mouth is full So it had this kind of wonderful way of existing in an aliveness of a language, aliveness of a second language as opposed to just sort of a need to get something or to use. Youre very young. I just set my wash settings to who Id like to be in 2023: Casual, Warm, Normal., Yeah, that was true. Limn: Yeah. I have a lot of poems that basically are that. Now, somethings, breaking always on the skyline, falling over Out here, theres a bowing even the trees are doing. whats larger within us, toward how we were born. , and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. And so I have Limn: Yeah. As we turn the corner from pandemic, although we will not completely turn the corner, I just wanted to read something you wrote on Twitter, which was hilarious. I just saw her. But I think you are a prodigy for growing older and wiser. Tippett: Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. rough wind, chicken legs, He works with wood, and he works with other people who work with their hands making beautiful, useful things. And so I gave up on it. I grew up in Glen Ellen in Sonoma, California, born and raised. the world walking in, ready to be ravaged, open for business. In this spirit, our ecosystem of offerings launching across 2023 serve a far-flung global web of listeners/practitioners. people could point to us with the arrows they make in their minds. The listener wants to understand the humanity behind the words of the other, and patiently summons one's own best self and one's own best words and questions.". for the water to stop shivering out of the Krista Tippett; Filtrer Krista Tippett Voir les critres de classement. And I think when were talking about this, were talking about who we are right now, because were all carrying this. Theres how I stand in the lawn, thats one way. And honestly, this feels to me like if I were teaching a college class, I would have somebody read this poem and say, Discuss.. Why not that weed? Our entire world is spent that way. Few books have been more eagerly passed from hand to hand with delight in these last years than Robin Wall Kimmerers Braiding Sweetgrass. Woodworking and the meaning of life. Listen Download Transcript. And were at a new place, but we have to carry and process that. I wrote it and then I immediately sent it to an editor whos a friend of mine and said, I dont know if you want this. And it was up the next day on the website. if we declared a clean night, if we stopped being terrified, if we launched our demands into the sky, made ourselves so big. Theres whole books about how to breathe. Ada Limn. Can you locate that? And they would say, I dont want to go to yoga. And I was like, Why? And they said, I just dont want anyone telling me when to breathe. [laughter] But its true. Tippett: Thats so wonderful. In between my tasks, I find a dead fledgling, I dont even mourn him, just all matter-of-, fact-like take the trowel, plant the limp body, thing, forever close-eyed, under a green plant, in the ground, under the feast up above. And just as there are callings for a life, there are callings for our time. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the . And I always thought it was just because I had to work. Its the , Limn: We literally. Tippett: Thank you. days a little hazy with fever and waiting Limn: Yeah. Its wonderful. Okay. Find them at, Dedicated to reconnecting ecology, culture, and spirituality. Yeah. All right. But I want you to read it second, because what I found in Bright Dead Things, which was a couple of years before that, certainly pre-pandemic, in the before times, was the way you wrote, a way that you spoke of the same story of yourself. But I think the biggest thing for me is to begin with silence. All of this, as Dacher sees it now, led him deeper and deeper into investigating the primary experience of awe in human life moments when we have a sense of wonder, an experience of mystery, that transcends our understanding. the world walking in, ready to be ravaged, open for business. Its that Buddhist, the finger pointing at the moon, right? And this poem was basically a list of all the poems I didnt think I could write, because it was the early days of the pandemic, and I kept thinking, just that poetry had kind of given up on me, I guess. I am a hearth of spiders these days: a nest of trying. I have decided that Im here in this world to be moved by love and [to] let myself be moved by beauty. Which is such a wonderful mission statement. And together you kind of have this relationship. Which I hadnt had before. If youre having trouble writing or creating or whatever it is you make, when was the last time you just sat in silence with yourself and listened to what was happening? to the field, something to get through before And yet at the same time, I do feel like theres this Its so much power in it. I cannot reverse it, the record, chaotic track. The science of awe. Something that you reflect on a lot that I would love to just draw you out on a bit is I think people who love language the most, and work with language, also are most intensely aware of the limits of language, and thats partly why youre working so hard. Im learning so many different ways to be quiet. I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape. That its not my neighborhood, and they look beautiful. The caesura and the line breaks, its breath. And one of them this is also on. My familys all in California. And coming in future weeks, is a conversation with a technologist and artist named James Bridle, whose point is that language itself, the sounds we made and the words we finally formed, and the imagery and the metaphors were all primally, organically rooted in the natural world of which we were part. Seems like a good place for a close-eyed And if its weekly, theres a day of the week and you do it. 1. and the one that is so relieved to finally be home. But then I just examine all the different ways of being quiet. And then you can also be like, Im a little anxious about this thing thats happening next week. Or all of these things, it makes room for all of those things. I wonder if Im here again today or in a new place. And that was really essential to my practice of who I was as a creative person in the middle of such an enormous tragedy. Limn: I think the failure of language is what really draws me to poetry in general. And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. Limn: Right. Youre never like, Oh, Im just done grieving. I mean, you can pretend you are, right, but we arent. And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. Page 40. cigarette smoke or expertise in recipes or, reading skills. Which makes me laugh, in an oblivion-is-coming sort of way. And then I kept thinking, What are the other things I can do that with? [laughter] Because there are a lot of unhelpful things that have been told to me. my brother and my husband to witness this, nearly clear body. The Pause. Alice Parker is a wise and joyful thinker and writer on this truth, and has been a hero in the universe of choral music as a composer . Limn: Yeah. I am human, enough I am alone and I am desperate, We surface this as a companion for the frontiers we are all on just by virtue of being alive in this time. The podcast's foundation is the same as the groundbreaking radio concept. Musings and tools to take into your week. And its always an interesting question because I feel like my process changes and I change. And so I think my investigation or my curiosity is not so much talking about poetry, but about where poetry comes from in us and what poetry works in us. And that between space was the only space that really made sense to me. Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. I was like, Oh. Then I came downstairs and I was like, Lucas, Im never going to get to be Poet Laureate.. And then I would be like, Okay, I was there. And the next day Id wake up and be like, Well, I was there yesterday. Dedicated to reconnecting ecology, culture, and spirituality. Tippett: And I also just wondered if that experience of loving sound and the cadence of this language that was yours and not yours, if that also flowed into this love of poetry. are your bones, and your bones are my bones. I think thats very true. Tippett: I dont expect you to have the page number memorized. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. Yes. Tippett: You see what I did? We hold each other. And shes animated by questions emerging from those loves and from the science she does which we scarcely know how to take seriously amidst so much demoralizing bad ecological news. Only my head is for you. And I want you to read it. Limn: Not the Saddest Thing in the World, All day I feel some itchiness around So well just be on an adventure together. So its this weird moment of being aware of it and then also letting it go at the same time. We think were divided by issues, arguing about conflicting facts. Tippett: Maybe that speaks for itself. Limn: Yeah, there wasnt a religious practice. And even as it relieves us of the need to sum everything up. And it wasnt until really, when I was writing that poem that the word came to me. I think thats very true. Krista Tippett has spent more than a decade exploring important questions of life, questions that often involve faith, science and spirituality on her popular radio program and podcast, "On Being." So you get to have this experience with language that feels somewhat disjointed, and in that way almost feels like, Oh, this makes more sense as the language for our human experience than, lets say, a news report.. Tippett: Something that you reflect on a lot that I would love to just draw you out on a bit is I think people who love language the most, and work with language, also are most intensely aware of the limits of language, and thats partly why youre working so hard. We are fluent in the story of our time marked by catastrophe and dysfunction. Oh, Im stressed. Oh, if you want to know about stress, let me tell you, Im stressed., Limn: I like to tell my friends when they say theyre really stressed, Ill be like, Oh, I took the most wonderful nap. Singing is able to touch and join human beings in ways few other arts can. Tippett: several years later and a changed world later. And I think most poets are drawn to that because it feels like what were always trying to do is say something that cant always entirely be said, even in the poem, even in the completed poem. like water, elemental, and best when its humbled, brought to its knees, clung to by someone who. Her six books of poetry include, most recently, The Hurting Kind. fact-like take the trowel, plant the limp body I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape, of age. And it wasnt until really, when I was writing that poem that the word came to me. Out here, theres a bowing even the trees are doing. We can forget this. Definitely. On Being is an independent nonprofit production of The On Being Project. And I hope, I dont think anybody here will mind. love it again, until the song in your mouth feels And enough so that actually, as I would always sort of interrogate her about her beliefs and, Do you think this, do you think that? Yeah. Tippett: No, theres so much to enjoy. Yeah. These full-body experiences of isolation and ungrieved losses and loneliness and fear and uncertainty. I could. And also Im so happy to be together with you in the old-fashioned flesh, which we no longer take for granted. Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living. Good, good. What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. Yeah, there wasnt a religious practice. I feel like theres a level in which it offers us a place to be that feels closer to who we are, because there is always that interesting moment where someone asks you who you are, even just the simple question of, How are you? If we really took a minute to think about it, How am I? strong and between sleep, would happen if we decided to survive more? and the one that is so relieved to finally be home. And thought, How am I right now at this moment? Okay. But something I started thinking, with this frame, really, this sense of homecoming and our belonging in the natural world runs all the way through every single one of your poems. And it was this moment of like, Oh, this is abundance. Unknown. [laughs] And its a very interesting thing to be a kid that goes back and forth, and Im sure many people have this experience or have had that experience, where youre moving from one home to another. And its page six of The Hurting Kind. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and more towards stretching into this world ahead with dignity . the ground and the feast is where I live now. Limn: Yeah. Also because so much of whats been and again, its not just in the past, what has happened, has been happening below the level of consciousness in our bodies. Because how do we care for one another? It unfolded at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis, in collaboration with Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Ada Limns publisher, Milkweed Editions. Okay. Copyright 2023. that sounds like someones rough fingers weaving The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. The next-generation marine biologist Ayana Elizabeth Johnson would let that reality of belonging show us the way forward. Tippett: And then a trauma of the pandemic was that our breathing became a danger to strangers and beloveds. thats sung in silence when its too hard to go on, that sounds like someones rough fingers weaving, into anothers, that sounds like a match being lit, in an endless cave, the song that says my bones. So that even when youre talking about the natural world: we are of it not in it. (Unedited) The Dalai Lama, Jonathan Sacks, Katharine Jefferts Schori, and Seyyed Hossein Nasr with Krista Tippett. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and . I mean, thats how we read. So Im hoping. Limn: Yeah. Perhaps Yeah. A friend, lover, come back to the five-and-dime. Krista Tippett leaves public radio. bury yourself in leaves, and wait for a breaking, So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. On Being is an hour-long radio show and podcast, hosted by Krista Tippett. Definitely. This might be hard for some of you right here. But he is driven by passionate callings older and deeper than his public vocation as an actor and comedian. And I was feeling very isolated. And I kept thinking how I missed all my family, and I missed my father and his wife, and I missed my mother and stepfather. Lean Spirituality. What were talking about and not when we talk about mental health. On Being with Krista Tippett December 6, 2016. And isnt it strange that breathing is something that we have to get better at? of dust and I wish to reclaim the rising. Too high for most of us with the rockets and you forget how to breathe. Tippett: To be made whole/ by being not a witness,/ but witnessed. Can you say a little bit about that? [laughter] But I mean, Ive listened to every podcast shes done, so Im aware. On Being, which began on public radio, has been named a best podcast by The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, the Webbys, iHeart Radio with more than 400 million downloads. Find them at fetzer.org. I love it that youre already thinking that. Who am I to live? Right? And it was just me, the dog, and the cat, and the trees. Tippett: I have your books, and theres some, too. Tippett: Was there a religious or spiritual background in your childhood there, however you would describe that now? like the flag, how it undulates in the wind With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. Youre never like, Oh, Im just done grieving. I mean, you can pretend you are, right, but we arent. Limn: And I love it, but I think that you go to it, as a poet, in an awareness of not only its limitations and its failures, but also very curious about where you can push it in order to make it into a new thing. Peabody Award-winning host Krista Tippett presents a live, in-person recording of the wildly popular On Being podcast, featuring guest speaker Isabel Wilkerson. I think there was also he also was a singer, so he would just sing. The Hearthland Foundation. of thee, enough of bosom and bud, skin and god Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. Its got breath, its got all those spaces. Actually, thats in Bright Dead Things. I would say about 50 percent, maybe 60 percent of it was written during the pandemic. Its almost romantic as we adjust the waxy blue And it feels important to me whenever Im in a room right now and I havent been in that many rooms with this many people sitting close together that we all just acknowledge that even if we all this exact same configuration of human beings had sat in this exact room in February 2020, and were back now, were changed at a cellular level. And place is always place. And it sounds like thunder? But we dont need to belabor that. But when we talk about the limitations of language in general, I find language is so strange. adrienne maree brown "We are in a time of new suns" On Being with Krista Tippett Society & Culture "What a time to be alive," adrienne maree brown has written. From the earliest years of his career, he investigated how emotions are coded in the muscles of our faces, and how they serve as moral sensory systems. He was called on as Emojis evolved; he consulted on Pete Docters groundbreaking movie Inside Out. Yeah, because its made with words, but its also sensory and its bodily. I think we all came a little bit more alive. We orient away from the closure of fear and towards the opening of curiosity. We get curious, we interrogate, and we ask over and over again. Is it okay? The danger of all poets and I think artists in general, is it some moment we think we dont deserve to do this work because what does it do? we never sing, the third that mentions no refuge Im really glad youre enjoying it because theres many more decades. to pick with whoever is in charge. the nectar lovers, and we And I want you to read it. Her six books of poetry include, most recently, won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her book. Draco, Lacerta, Hydra, Lyra, Lynx. Tippett: Just back to this idea that there is this organic automatically breathing thing of which were part, and that we even have to rediscover that. Silence, which we dont get enough of. Its the . And there are times where I think people have said as a child, Oh, you come from a broken home. And I remember thinking, Its not broken, its just bigger. Enough of osseous and chickadee and sunflower enough of can you see me, can you hear me, enough Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. was like that. So its a very special place. [Music: Molerider by Blue Dot Sessions]. And its funny to tell people that youre raised an atheist because theyre like, Really? But I was. The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. of the mother and the child and the father and the child Theres a lot of different People. We live the questions. Suppose its easy to slip Bottlebrush trees attract On Being with Krista Tippett On Being Studios Poetry Unbound On Being Studios Becoming Wise On Being Studios This Movie Changed Me On Being Studios Creating Our Own Lives On Being Studios More ways to shop: Find an Apple Store or other retailer near you. No, really I was. I think I trusted its unknowing and its mystery in a way that I distrusted maybe other forms of writing up until then. And also, I read somewhere that Sundays were a day that you were moving back and forth between your two homes, your parents divorced and everybody remarried. Theres how I dont answer the phone, and how I sometimes like to lie down on the floor in the kitchen and pretend Im not home when people knock. teeth right before they break recycling bin until you say, Man, we should really learn Funny thing about grief, its hold I chose a couple of poems that you wrote again that kind of speak to this. A few years ago, Krista hosted an event in Detroit a city in flux on the theme of raising children. The one that always misses where Im not. I do think I enjoy it. And then to do it on top of really global grief, that is a very kind of different work because then you think, Well, who am I to look at this flower? and the stoic farmer and faith and our father and tis Yeah. April 4, 2008. And I would just have these whole moments when people would be like, Oh, and then well meet in person. And I was like, , I dont want you to witness my body. and snowshoes, maple and seeds, samara and shoot, And if you cant have hope, I think we need a little awe, or a little wonder, or at least a little curiosity. I think coming back to this idea that poetry is as embodied as it is linguistic. The Osprey Foundation a catalyst for empowered, healthy, and fulfilled lives. has lost everything, when its not a weapon, Tippett: You hosted this, The Slowdown podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. We prioritize busyness. We hold each other. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the mystery of others. Our closing music was composed by Gautam Srikishan. But I love it. But in reality its home to so many different kind of wildlife. Interesting. Can you locate that? Limn: I do think I enjoy it. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course, The On Being Project Just uncertainty is so hard on our bodies. Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. Many have turned to David Whyte for his gorgeous, life-giving poetry and his wisdom at the interplay of theology, psychology, and leadership his insistence on the power of a beautiful question and of everyday words amidst the drama of work as well as the drama of life. It began as "Speaking of Faith" in July 2003, and was renamed On Being in 2010. Shes teaching me a lesson. You said there in a place, as Ive aged, I have more time for tenderness, for the poems that are so earnest they melt your spine a little. And together you kind of have this relationship. Which I hadnt had before. and snowshoes, maple and seeds, samara and shoot, enough chiaroscuro, enough of thus and prophecy, and the stoic farmer and faith and our father and tis, of thee, enough of bosom and bud, skin and god. We have been in the sun. In fact, Krista interviewed the wise and wonderful Ocean Vuong right on the cusp of that turning, in March 2020, in a joyful and crowded room full of podcasters in Brooklyn. Limn: Yeah. nest rigged high in the maple. Im really longing I realized as I was preparing for this, Im just Of course, I read poetry, I read a lot of poetry in these last years, but I realized Im craving hearing poetry. 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